Wassim Ben Sayed

co-CEO of RV Tech and Chief Software Officer at Rivian

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Key positions and views

Developing a proprietary, in-house AI and software stack is non-negotiable for owning the complete user experience and driving future innovation.

Deeply integrated, native AI assistants will ultimately render phone projection systems like Apple CarPlay and Android Auto obsolete in automobiles.

A successful automotive software platform must be built on a common core (80-90%) but provide flexible hooks for brands to customize critical elements like UI and driving dynamics.

The future of all Volkswagen Group electric vehicles, from mass-market to luxury, will be built upon the software and electrical architecture developed by the RV Tech joint venture.

Significant on-device compute power for AI is a critical hardware investment and a key differentiator for next-generation vehicles like the Rivian R2.

Podcast consensus on Sayed

Points of consensus

▶Wassim Ben Sayed holds dual leadership roles as the Chief Software Officer at Rivian and co-CEO of RV Tech, the joint venture between Rivian and Volkswagen.May 2026

▶The RV Tech joint venture is a strategic partnership designed to provide the core software and electrical architecture for all future electric vehicles across the entire Volkswagen Group, including brands like Audi, Porsche, and Lamborghini.May 2026

▶Rivian has made a deliberate strategic choice to develop its AI solutions and software stack in-house, believing this control is critical for the user experience and future innovation.May 2026

▶Ben Sayed's strategy for RV Tech involves creating a common platform that constitutes 80-90% of the core software, while providing specific 'hooks' for individual brands to customize UI and driving dynamics.May 2026

Points of debate

▶A central tension exists in RV Tech's strategy: while the platform is being built to support CarPlay for Volkswagen Group vehicles, Rivian, under Ben Sayed's software leadership, staunchly refuses to implement it in its own cars, betting on its native AI instead.May 2026

▶Ben Sayed claims customer demand for CarPlay has plummeted from over 70% to under 25%, a significant shift that contrasts with broader industry trends where CarPlay integration is a major consumer demand.May 2026

▶There is a strategic contrast between RV Tech's first co-developed products: the platform will power Rivian's premium vehicles like the R2 while also being adapted for a mass-market vehicle, the VW ID.1, intended to sell for under $25,000.May 2026

▶Ben Sayed's vision separates Rivian's proprietary AI stack from the core RV Tech offering, raising questions about how much of Rivian's 'secret sauce' will be shared versus how much will be reserved to maintain its competitive differentiation.May 2026

Key themes

▶RV Tech: A Platform for an EmpireMay 2026

A dominant theme is the creation and strategic importance of RV Tech, the joint venture with Volkswagen. Ben Sayed describes it not just as a partnership, but as the future software and electrical foundation for every electric vehicle across the entire VW Group, from mass-market models like the ID.1 to luxury brands like Bentley and Porsche.

The success of this venture represents a massive scaling opportunity for Rivian's technology, but also introduces significant execution risk in serving a diverse portfolio of brands with varying requirements, potentially diluting the focus that has defined Rivian's product so far.

▶The Bet on In-House AI over CarPlay

Ben Sayed is a firm proponent of developing a proprietary, deeply integrated AI assistant. He argues that this approach is essential for owning the user experience and will eventually render phone projection systems like CarPlay obsolete, citing internal survey data showing a dramatic drop in customer requests for the feature.

This is a high-stakes gamble that pits Rivian's long-term vision against near-term consumer expectations, potentially alienating a segment of the market if its native system fails to deliver a demonstrably superior experience.

▶Vertical Integration and Strategic ControlMay 2026

Throughout the claims, a philosophy of strategic control over the technology stack is evident. This is seen in the decision to build an in-house AI solution, create a model-agnostic architecture for the Rivian Assistant, and structure the RV Tech JV to provide a core platform that Rivian ultimately architects.

This focus on vertical integration gives Rivian significant control over its destiny and user experience but also saddles it with the immense cost and complexity of competing with specialized tech giants like Google and Apple in their own domains.

▶Hardware and Software Co-development

Ben Sayed emphasizes the tight coupling of hardware and software decisions. This is exemplified by the choice to equip the upcoming R2 with up to 200 sparse TOPS of dedicated AI compute, a decision made by the CEO as part of the vehicle's differentiation budget to enable powerful on-edge AI capabilities.

This highlights a core belief that future vehicle differentiation will be driven by computational power and the AI-driven features it enables, treating silicon as a key product feature on par with battery range or performance.

Source episodes

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Changes over time

Pre-2019 (approx.)

Rivian operated with high customer demand for CarPlay, with over 70% of prospective buyers requesting the feature according to company surveys.

Strategic Development Phase

Rivian, under Ben Sayed's software leadership, made the strategic decision to develop its own AI solution and software stack in-house rather than relying on third-party providers.

Recent Past

The RV Tech joint venture with Volkswagen was formed, with Ben Sayed appointed co-CEO. The venture was established with a team of 800-900 Rivian developers and about 50 from VW Group.

Present

Ben Sayed reports that recent surveys show customer requests for CarPlay have dropped to less than 25%. Development is underway on the Rivian R2 and the co-developed VW ID.1.

Near Future

The Rivian R2 is planned for launch before the R3X, featuring 5G connectivity and up to 200 sparse TOPS of on-device AI compute.

Long-term Future

Ben Sayed envisions a future where RV Tech's platform powers every electric vehicle in the Volkswagen Group and deep AI integration makes the CarPlay debate obsolete.

Suggested prompts

How does RV Tech's strategy of providing a common platform with customization hooks balance standardization with the need for distinct brand identities across the VW Group? &nearr;What are the primary risks associated with Rivian's decision to develop its AI stack in-house and reject CarPlay, especially concerning customer adoption and long-term development costs? &nearr;How will the co-development of a mass-market vehicle like the ID.1 influence the technology roadmap and cost structure of both Rivian's premium vehicles and RV Tech's platform? &nearr;Given the claim that customer demand for CarPlay is dropping, what metrics should be used to validate this trend and assess the success of Rivian's native infotainment and AI assistant? &nearr;

Key concepts

RV Tech Joint Venture 9 ep Rivian AI Strategy 6 ep Volkswagen Group Partnership 7 ep Software Architecture 5 ep CarPlay / In-Car Infotainment 4 ep Rivian R2 Vehicle 4 ep Business Strategy 6 ep On-device Compute 2 ep

Notable quotes

“now we can have a solution that can not only underpin the Rivian vehicles, as you mentioned, with the the first car that the joint venture is shipping, but then eventually in the future, every single electric model in the VW Group.”

Wassim Ben Sayed · Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need CarPlay or buttons | Decoder

“One of the first products that we're building with Volkswagen Group is the ID.1, which has taken our technology to a mass-market vehicle. I mean, this is a car that will sell for less than $25,000”

Wassim Ben Sayed · Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need CarPlay or buttons | Decoder

“More than 70% of customers were requesting CarPlay. In the recent survey, that number is less than 25% now”

Wassim Ben Sayed · Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need CarPlay or buttons | Decoder

“the local computer on the R2 will have up to 200 sparse TOPS of compute dedicated to AI.”

Wassim Ben Sayed · Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need CarPlay or buttons | Decoder

Report last updated: Jun 10, 2026

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