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Arvind Jain | Why OpenAI and Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Glean Founder, Sonic AI
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Why OpenAI and Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Glean Founder
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Jul 11, 2026
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Why OpenAI and Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Glean Founder
Arvind Jain
(Founder, Glean & Co-founder, Rubrik, guest)
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Executive Summary
Enterprises are rapidly shifting from proprietary frontier models (e.g., OpenAI, Anthropic) to open-source alternatives, primarily driven by the unsustainably high cost of AI.
The standalone business of selling AI models is likely not as lucrative as believed due to intense price competition and commoditization, with inferencing costs expected to drop by orders of magnitude.
AI is transforming workflows by shifting bottlenecks rather than simply eliminating jobs; for example, in software development, the challenge has moved from writing code to reviewing the massive volume of AI-generated code.
The current enterprise AI market is in a critical "land grab" phase where acquiring customers is paramount, as displacing incumbents will become exponentially more difficult in the near future.
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