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Dan Ivascyn predicts that the buildout of AI data centers will continue and accelerate from its current pace.
PIMCO predicts that AI disruption will lead to higher realized losses in credit markets, somewhat independent of the overall economy's strength, as AI targets old-economy business models.
PIMCO expects that credit segments which previously had near-zero losses, such as private credit, will likely see losses migrate up to the mid-single digits.
PIMCO's general view is that AI could be a game-changer for productivity over the next several years, significantly bringing down the costs of goods and services.
PIMCO believes AI will lead to worker displacement, particularly impacting the middle-income professional cohort group and causing a rise in white-collar unemployment.
PIMCO's biggest concern for the remainder of the year was the geopolitical situation with Iran, and if that is controlled, the firm is "pretty bullish" on the US economy into year-end.
A major geopolitical shift has occurred where political objectives, such as implementing tariffs, are now frequently dominating traditional economic efficiency considerations in policymaking.
An estimated $10 trillion of anticipated investment in technology, particularly AI, is creating massive uncertainty for markets.
PIMCO identifies four major drivers of global spending: AI infrastructure ($7.6 trillion), energy and grid modernization ($2.6 trillion), defense spending ($2.4 trillion), and supply chain reshoring ($1.4 trillion).
NVIDIA recently came to the bond market to raise $20-30 billion, which PIMCO views as a strong forward indicator of massive capital needs in the tech sector.
PIMCO was a major financier for Meta's Hyperion data center, with Blue Owl involved in the equity portion of the deal.
Investors can structure safe, investment-grade risk in AI data center financing that yields 6-8%, representing a spread pickup of approximately 2 percentage points over the underlying credit of a company like Meta.